Ready, Set, Stay and Go!

As I begin this post I’m at home in the U.S. and Dermot is in Ireland.  Okay, let me back up a bit. Having had years to plan our next European campervan adventure we were all ready to finally be done with Covid and all its disruptions. Dermot had his second booster earlier in April and I got mine on April 16. I had mild symptoms but the CDC’s website indicated they just meant the vaccine was working. Great! April 20 - the day of our flight arrives and Dermot suggests I take a home test for Covid just to reassure others who might inquire. First test - positive! Ditto second test! Dermot’s test is negative. This sets off a flurry of calls and altered plans. My symptoms were still mild but our first weeks would have been spent in Ireland with family members who are at higher risk so we decided Dermot would go ahead without me. 

Pictures here. Click the "i" for information.  

Disappointing? Yes, but Dermot enjoyed some quality time at “home.”

Next stop: England 

Highs and Lows

Panorama of historic Lincoln Castle

With repairs on our campervan nearing completion, we headed back to Bristol but couldn't resist one more stop to explore Scottish history. We spent several hours touring the Highland Folk Museum. 

Farm implements, pen and home.

What a face!

There are many buildings representing over 250 years - from a 1700’s township to a 1930’s working farm. Each area was well-explained in a booklet but there were many implements we couldn’t figure out.   Of particular interest was the recreation of a Highland town from the middle ages.  

Click here for more information on the Highland Folk Museum.

Quite a few buildings were both home and a means of making a living. For example, some including quarters for livestock and one included a large loom. People dressed in period clothing provided additional insights. This site was used in the filming of some scenes in the Outlander series as well.  

Our photos here.

In a completely unexpected turn of events, Dermot got an email from a colleague he had worked with when Siemens sent him to India for two weeks in 2017.  Sundram had spent hours of his own time showing Dermot around India and made Dermot's trip so much more meaningful and fun. Sundram had been following this blog and knew we were in Scotland so he reached out to see if we'd be coming to Lincoln where he was currently working on a short term project. 

One of the great joys of travel is reconnecting with friends around the world. So we toured the historic Lincoln castle and saw one of only four copies of the Magna Carta while waiting for the end of the workday. We met up with Sundram and his friend, Gorava, who also works for Siemens. They took us to a wonderful Indian restaurant where we ordered far too much food and traded stories of home, travel and work. You just never know what surprises might be around the next corner!

Clifton Suspension Bridge in Bristol, England. 

Our next surprise was much less enjoyable. With major repairs completed, we happily reunited with our campervan and prepared to head to Belgium. Restocked and with two hours driving behind us, the engine light came on - AGAIN! This time we called for a tow. Now we’re back in Bristol waiting through the weekend to hear back from FIAT. The suspension bridge we visited below reflects our current situation.

From Liverpool to Inverness

Scottish Highlands!

Our cruise was over and we had to deal with the reality of daily living again. 

The Bad news: The engine and other bits of our campervan are disassembled at the dealer and they are still waiting for parts from Italy. 

The Good news: The dealer gave us a loaner van to use until they're done. It's not a camper but we decided to head to Scotland to take advantage the smaller size vehicle. We downloaded Rick Steve's Great Britain Guide and made a loose route plan.

First leg: Drive from Bristol to Liverpool and spend the night.

Second leg: Drive thru England's lake district through the strange, sandy colored hills there and spend a night in Glasgow. 

For LOTS of pictures with information click here.

St. Conan's Kirk

Third leg: Follow trip route drive into the Scottish Highlands towards Oban stopping at Inverary and St. Conan's Kirk which includes examples of nearly every church architectural style and made a real impression on us. It was undergoing extensive renovation but still managed to seem both whimsical (downspouts were bunnies and dogs) and elegant. Link to Stconanskirk.org.uk

Fourth leg: Follow Rich Steve's trip route drive from Oban to Inverness and were directed to this iconic spot: Castle Stalker. Here's more information about the place and the Monty Python link: Wikipedia on Castle Stalker

In Glencoe we learned a bit of the tragic and brutal history of this area and did a bit of hiking in the highlands.  We took many pictures of the magnificent scenery there then drove on to Inverness. Our centrally located guest house turned out to be in a rough-feeling section of the city and though we searched for a place to listen to traditional music we never did really find the right fit for us. We spent a day touring Culloden Battlefield.  This was the site of a pivotal battle that had repercussions around the world and for many years. For more on the history:  Wikipedia on the Battle_of_Culloden

If you're a fan of Diana Gabaldon's Outlander series of books and/or the series, (I think the books are better) you've had a taste of the landscape and desperation of this time.  A visit here brought it home for me. 

We also visited the nearby Clava Cairns (ancient site) and Cawdor Castle which felt like an actual home (because it still is) and had a wonderful natural area to walk through (including sequoia and redwood trees!) beyond the manicured garden. 

We had such beautifully sunny and warm weather here that Dermot feels he hasn't really seen the true glory of Scotland.  However, he's been watching the Ireland v. Scotland Rugby World Cup game as I've been finishing up this post.  Ireland's victory just made his day and we'll probably hit showers on the drive back to Bristol so it's all good.

Estonia, Latvia, Germany and Southampton

Tallinn, Estonia
Before we left, I knew nearly nothing about this area of the world. Tallinn, Estonia was part of Sweden at one time and part of Russia later. I still know very little of this area's interesting history and language but I'm intrigued enough to learn more when we get back. 
Here's more info for the history buffs.

We enjoyed the city very much and I put lots of information in the photos:

Our photos here. Click on the "i" to see descriptions.


Riga, Latvia
Riga is the biggest city of the Baltics. It has a history of being part of other nations including Sweden and Russia, gaining independence following WWI,  then losing it becoming part of the USSR with WWII.  It later regained independence and still has a significant Russian population. They also have the finest collection of Art Nouveau buildings in Europe and we really enjoyed finding the beguiling details on the facades.  Here's more info for those interested:
Wiki's take on Art Nouveau architecture in Riga

The river you see running through the lovely, long park was formerly the town's moat.

Warnemunde, Germany

A nice small town, good for a stroll with a nip into the park. The wind was strong at the beach but it was too cold for these Floridians so we just watched the daredevil kite-surfers flying high in the air.  Not much in the way of interesting history though.







Southampton, England
We added a few pictures of the Southampton harbor.

Sleeping sailboats in Southampton

Next up: Back to Bristol and more disappointing news on our campervan.

Cruising to Norway, Denmark and Russia

I’ll skip the descriptions of the typical cruise activities everyone has experienced but there were some differences on this P&O Cruises. For example, there were no towel animals - too whimsical, perhaps? Beyond the usual food service, they also served afternoon tea. I only made it once but I tried scones and tea biscuits with clotted cream - much nicer than it sounds. Dermot and I were sometimes assets on a team with Brits in the quiz challenges. Embarrassingly however, we did not know the origins of ZZ Top. 

Kristiansand, Norway

When you think of Norway, you picture magnificent fjords with the occasional colorful village thrown in. Our time in Kristiansand, Norway was wet - ranging from drizzle to downpour and there wasn’t a fjord in sight. We attempted a self-guided walking tour but truncated it a bit and everything looks pretty gray in the pictures. As far as I can tell, the main reason our cruise stopped here is that it’s conveniently located along our route to St Petersburg, Russia. I spent that evening and the next day drying out my shoes, backpack contents, and new “waterproof” jacket. 

Copenhagen, Denmark

We were forecast to have fair weather during our stay but experienced more rain. After attempting to wait it out, we gave up, bought plastic ponchos and carried on. Copenhagen is a lovely city where bike-riders take the right-of-way on wide paths and pedestrians nervously pick their way along narrow even pavers and (often) uneven cobblestones. I wished we had more time to visit the reportedly wonderful National Museum or fit a canal tour in but time was too tight. On our way out of Copenhagen we had more rain and then a double-rainbow. 

Our Photos Here

St. Petersburg, Russia

This was the big draw for us and we took a “Splendors of St. Petersburg” excursion that had us hopping for two days from one impressive palace, artwork, and fountain to the next. There were 14 people in our minibus and we enjoyed riding in comfort with explanations from a young native Russian. Since we hadn’t arranged a special visa prior to leaving home, we were restricted to a led tour and there were no opportunities to chat with locals. We got a pretty rosy description of current life in Russia and descriptions of historical events were told with a similarly positive perspective. I once asked what happened to churches and cathedrals after the revolution and civil war and was told that of course, they lost some of what they had but that most churches were turned into museums.  

History for those interested

Though we did see many splendors of St. Petersburg, we didn't see much of the Hermitage and left feeling that we only got the barest glimpse into all the cities we visited.  I guess that's the trade-off between vandrifting and cruising.

Lemonade from Lemons

Friday night in Bristol. Lots of drinking going on here.

So here we were/are, still in England with somewhere between one and five weeks of time until we have a functioning campervan. We drove the van back to a campsite in Cheddar and stayed put since we had been warned that driving it might create additional problems. 

Bristol as seen from restaurant

Our warranty cited support from Fiat of various types. The options seemed to be: drop it at the dealer and just fly home or continue to travel without it. Returning home was problematic as we had no idea when it would be fixed. Besides, that would just be depressing. Of course, planning a whole new trip without the van was daunting.

Many possibilities were discussed and researched. If we stayed, maybe we should go somewhere we wouldn’t easily be able to reach in the campervan. Turkey? Cambodia? Too hot this time of year. China? No visas. Finland and Estonia emerged as enticing possibilities but a land-based exploration proved difficult to plan without reliable resources. 

Our Photos Here.

Next we considered a cruise. Never my first choice, it now seemed to check lots of boxes. A flurry of research yielded a two week cruise from Southampton all the way to St. Petersburg, Russia visiting various other far-flung ports starting on September 2. My fingers hovered over the keyboard ready to spend a lot of money we hadn’t intended while trying to extract a promise from Dermot not to dwell on it when hindsight inevitably illuminated better choices. I never got that promise but we agreed to book anyway. Bonus: It was an Adults Only cruise and we got a balcony room! 

I downloaded Rick Steve’s book on Scandinavian and Northern European Cruise Ports (very helpful) as well as a cruise app. Trying to distract myself from our predicament, I also borrowed several books from my library to expand my knowledge of Russian history, (an Autobiography of Catherine the Great) and just for laughs (David Sedaris' Calypso).

So now we needed to figure out how to pack for five nights in a hotel for the time after we delivered the van for service and two weeks on a cruise. We also needed to buy stuff that we hadn’t brought with us! What kept going through my head was George Carlin’s comedy routine on “Stuff.” If you don't know what I'm talking about, click on this link to experience the master:

Watch George Carlin's "Stuff"

Bristol as seen from restaurant

On Tuesday we dropped off the van and settled into a hotel room in Bristol. We had read up on the cruise and learned that there would be formal nights and we had no formal clothes. One thing was very confusing to me - the cruise warned that there would be no "fancy dress" allowed. I'd heard the term “fancy” used all over the UK but meaning “like” as in “Do you fancy a spot of tea?” Dermot had read an article about a brawl that broke out on a P&O Cruise just a few days ago. No kidding - same cruise line and the same embarkation port. Excerpt: "A holidaymaker dressed as a clown prompted a mass brawl on a cruise ship in which passengers used furniture and plates as weapons, according to witnesses." I did not make this up! Here's the article:

Passenger in a clown suit prompts mass brawl on po cruise ship.

Who knew we were taking such a huge risk on a cruise with what we thought of as civilized Brits? Forewarned/armed with this knowledge we shopped for items to fill in our wardrobes with what we hoped would grant entry to fine dining but not get us involved in a melee.

Early photo, spire missing 1446-1872 after being struck by lightning

To pass the time, Dermot researched the Wales vs. Ireland Rugby World Cup 2019 warm up game. He bought tickets and is taking the train over and back today as I'm finishing this post. 

I had spent some time looking through my genealogical tree for ancestors who hailed from this part of the world and found quite a few. Once we got to Bristol, I was able to stand in the very church - St. Mary Redcliff where one of my ancestors, Walter Childs or Chiles had been baptized in 1609! The old photo and drawing are how my ancestors would have seen the church. The ones in our photo album include the spire. I’ll put some information at the bottom of this post for potentially interested family members.

This is a view of St Mary Redcliff Church, Bristol, from a Drawing in the Collection of the Revd. Mr. Elderton. Gentlemans Magazine 1792 

We both anxiously watched the news of hurricane Dorian's trajectory towards Central Florida and hoped for the best. We'll be out at sea when the hurricane is projected to make landfall. I wish we could get news and post as we travel but cruises are notorious for poor/expensive internet connections. We’ll post and communicate when we can. In the meantime, stay safe Florida family and friends!

Walter Childs/Chiles

Contributed by Daphne Gentry and the Dictionary of Virginia Biography
Walter Chiles was a member of the House of Burgesses (serving intermittently through the 1640s), a member of the governor's Council (1651), and Speaker of the House of Burgesses (1653). The son of a merchant in Bristol, England, Chiles fitted out his own ship and settled in Virginia by 1638. He served as a burgess during the 1640s and sat on the governor's Council in 1651. Chiles enjoyed success trading with the English and the Dutch, but in 1652 one of his ships was seized off the Eastern Shore for violating Parliament's Navigation Act prohibiting unauthorized trade with the Netherlands. The resulting controversy spilled over into the General Assembly, where Chiles was elected Speaker of the House of Burgesses on July 6, 1653, in opposition to the governor, Richard Bennett. Having illustrated the independence of the House of Burgesses, Chiles resigned a day later, citing the impropriety of presiding over the body while it arranged a deal to resolve the conflict over his ship. He may have died soon afterwards, but the time and place of his death are not known. Chiles was probably the son of Walter Chiles (also Childs or Childes) and was born in Bristol, England, where his father was a textile merchant. His mother's name is uncertain. Baptized in the church of Saint Mary Redcliffe, in Bristol, on March 20, 1609, Chiles entered the textile trade there, married a woman named Elizabeth, whose maiden name may have been Sanders, and had at least two sons.

Chiles made his first recorded trip to Virginia in the service of the merchants William Harris and Nicholas Jolly aboard the Blessing, probably in 1636. By 1638 Chiles had fitted out his own ship and returned to the colony with his wife and sons. During the next few years he patented about 1,000 acres of land in Charles City County and regularly traveled between Virginia and England transporting merchandise and immigrants. In hope of expanding his business, Chiles joined three other men in June 1641 in petitioning the General Assembly for permission to "undertake the discovery of a new river or unknowne land bearing west southerly from Appomattake river." The assembly granted them a license in January 1642 and renewed it in 1643, but the Anglo-Powhatan War of 1644–1646 temporarily halted exploration and closed trading opportunities in the west. They did not attempt to obtain another license.

Chiles was elected a burgess from Charles City County for the assembly that met on January 12, 1642, and signed a declaration against a revival of the Virginia Company of London. He represented the county again in 1643 and took part in the last meetings of the General Assembly as a unicameral body and the first sessions of the House of Burgesses as a separate branch of the assembly. About that time the county court unsuccessfully recommended him to the governor for appointment as sheriff of Charles City County. Chiles then moved to James City County, which he represented in the assemblies that began on November 20, 1645; October 5, 1646; and October 10, 1649. It is possible that his absence from some of the intervening legislative sessions was a consequence of trips to England.

On March 23, 1650, Chiles purchased from Sir William Berkeley the brick house in Jamestown where governors had resided for more than a decade. Owning one of the largest and finest dwellings in the colony and acquiring a new title of lieutenant colonel, Chiles had clearly become a man of importance, and the governor appointed him to the Council. Because most of the Council's records for the period are lost, almost nothing is known about his tenure. The only surviving documents recording his attendance at Council meetings are dated May 21 and September 20, 1651. Chiles did not remain a councillor after Virginia surrendered to Parliament in March 1652, perhaps because he was not in Virginia at that time.

Chiles was still engaged in trade. He owned his own ships and may have carried messages between the governor and the Crown and, after the future king Charles II fled England for the Netherlands, between the government in Virginia and the court in exile. Late in January 1652 Chiles sailed for Rotterdam in his ship the Fame of Virginia. Five months later he returned and anchored off the Eastern Shore. As the ship was departing for Jamestown on June 13, a local militia captain detained it for violating Parliament's Navigation Act, which forbade unauthorized trade with the Netherlands. Chiles informed the county court that the terms of Virginia's surrender to Parliament exempted Virginians from that interdiction of trade, but faced with a new charge that Dutch merchants were the real owners of the ship, he remained fearful that his property might still be lost. Eastern Shore taxpayers worried that because a county militia officer had attempted to confiscate the ship, they might have to pay Chiles for the Fame of Virginia. The following summer Chiles embraced an opportunity to preserve his investment by agreeing to exchange one vessel for another. For £400 he acquired another ship that had been seized for violating the law, the larger Leopoldus of Dunkirk, and its valuable cargo.

The resulting legal complications and their political and commercial ramifications required the General Assembly to intervene. When the assembly met on July 5, 1653, Chiles was a burgess from James City County and also a candidate for Speaker. Governor Richard Bennett, anxious not to add another complication to an already difficult situation, advised the burgesses not to choose Chiles. The burgesses, jealous of the right to elect their own officers without executive interference, elected Chiles Speaker of the House anyway and so notified the governor. The next day Chiles resigned, citing the impropriety of presiding over the House of Burgesses while it settled the question of who owned the Fame of Virginia. Preconcerted or not, these acts of political theater enabled the House of Burgesses to preserve the right to elect the Speaker, Chiles received the honor of being elected, and by resigning he made it possible for the governor and other members of the assembly to resolve the controversies and seal the deal that gave him the Leopoldus of Dunkirk. The episode was important in preserving the independence of the House of Burgesses as a powerful parliamentary body during a time of political uncertainty, and it led to a peaceful solution of most of the problems.

Walter Chiles's name drops from documents relating to public affairs with the conclusion of the assembly session about a week later, and it is probable that he died not long thereafter. Dutch documents place a "Walter Chiels, merchant, living in the Virginias" in Amsterdam in August 1654 and indicate that he intended to sail for New Netherland the following month. The wording of an order of the Charles City County Court on December 17, 1655, indicates that Chiles might have still been alive then, but on November 5 of that year, when a deed he had executed in 1652 was recorded in James City County, a witness authenticated the document, suggesting that Chiles might have been dead by that date. The widow of his namesake son stated on November 20, 1673, that Walter Chiles had died in or about 1653.

Time Line
March 20, 1609 - Walter Chiles is baptized in the church of Saint Mary Redcliffe in Bristol, England.
1636 - Walter Chiles makes his first recorded trip to Virginia in the service of merchants William Harris and Nicholas Jolly aboard the Blessing.
1638 - By this year, Walter Chiles has fitted out his own ship and returned to Virginia with his wife, Elizabeth, and sons.
June 1641 - Walter Chiles and three other men petition the General Assembly for permission to explore land and waterways west of the Appomattox River. They are granted a license in January 1642.
January 12, 1642 - Walter Chiles represents Charles City County as a burgess in the General Assembly at the session that begins on this date.
1643 - Walter Chiles represents Charles City County as a burgess in the General Assembly.
November 20, 1645 - Walter Chiles represents James City County in the House of Burgesses at the session that begins on this date.
October 5, 1646 - Walter Chiles represents James City County in the House of Burgesses at the session that begins on this date.
October 10, 1649 - Walter Chiles represents James City County in the House of Burgesses at the session that begins on this date.
March 23, 1650 - Walter Chiles purchases from Sir William Berkeley a brick house in Jamestown where governors had resided for more than a decade.
1651 - Walter Chiles serves on the governor's Council.
January 1652 - Walter Chiles sails to the Netherlands in his ship the Fame of Virginia. He returns to the Virginia colony five months later.
June 13, 1652 - A local militia captain detains Walter Chiles's ship the Fame of Virginia for violating the Navigation Act, which forbids unauthorized trade with the Netherlands.
1653 - Walter Chiles buys the ship Leopoldus of Dunkirk, which had been seized for violating the Navigation Act, for £400.
July 5, 1653 - Against the wishes of Governor Richard Bennett, the House of Burgesses elects as its Speaker Walter Chiles, a representative from James City County.
July 6, 1653 - A day after being elected to the position, Walter Chiles resigns as Speaker of the House of Burgesses. He does so to allow the burgesses to resolve the controversy surrounding his ship the Fame of Virginia.
November 20, 1673 - The namesake son of Walter Chiles states that his father died in or about 1653.

Wikipedia's take on Walter Chiles

William Mayo 

Born in Poulshot, Wiltshire, England about 1685

William Mayo was the eldest child of the well-to-do family of Joseph and Elizabeth (Hooper) Mayo. At the age of twenty-five he left England, accompanied by his younger brother Joseph, to seek his fortune in Barbados, where a cousin had settled some time earlier. There he established himself as a surveyor. In 1717 Mayo received a commission to make a map of Barbados, which he accomplished with such skill that Governor William Tryon (North Carolina) urged the English Board of Trade to purchase it and to grant Mayo a patent enabling him to sell his map on a commission basis. The map also gained him election to membership in the Royal Society of London. 

Mayo remained in the West Indies for ten years. It was in about 1719 that Mayo, now nearly forty years of age, with his wife and four daughters and with his fortune already made and assured, began to consider moving permanently to Virginia. Finally, in 1723, with his own family and the families of two brothers and a cousin, he arrived in the Virginia. 

In 1736, a commission of six men sent a surveying party under Mayo's leadership to explore Lord Fairfax's territory (Virginia), one of three such parties outfitted at that time. This first survey of Fairfax's domains provided the first useful map of the region, and Mayo's journal provided most of the knowledge available to first settlers who were then breaking through the Blue Ridge gaps into western Virginia territory.

Together with Professor Alexander Irvin, Mayo was also responsible for setting the boundary between Virginia and North Carolina. One of the rivers intersecting the line was named the Mayo River in his honor.

In 1737, Mayo laid out the city of Richmond, Virginia.

Mayo served as the chief civil engineer in Virginia until his death in Richmond in 1744. 

England and Wales and Limbo

Cardiff Castle in Wales

  

Our flight from Orlando to Boston was delayed by summer storms so we wouldn't have made the connecting flight to London. We hurried to reschedule through Detroit and our second flight was also delayed. Third time being a charm we made it to JFK, but then the flight to London was also delayed. When we finally landed, we had to lug our bags through the London train stations and make it to Bristol. Overall it was over 22 hours of traveling so I was very happy Dermot had booked a hotel room for the night. If you're reading this blog for tips to travel smarter, fly direct or make sure you have a minimum of four hours between connecting flights.  😏

Still a bit foggy, we picked up the campervan the next morning but that amber "check engine" light was back on again. Cue ominous/foreshadowing music. Our Fiat Ducato was living up to its unwanted moniker “Fix It Again Tony.” During our time in Spain and Portugal, that light had gone on and off several times but it was off when we ended our trip. After some discussion we decided to risk continuing on with our trip and getting it fixed in its motherland - Italy.   

Our Cheddar campground had these as rentals.

Additionally, the business to which we had shipped sheets and other necessities purchased through Amazon UK had forgotten we had made that arrangement. That was partially solved the next day but the personal air conditioner had been delivered to the wrong address and there were a few other issues. I won't bore you with even more details except to say that everyday problems are more complicated to get "sorted," as the Brits say, while traveling.

By Sunday we had a change of heart about traveling with that engine light on and intermittently going into limp mode but that meant we needed to wait until Monday to take it to the dealer. So Sunday we tackled a few van maintenance jobs and tried to enjoy our temporary hometown of Cheddar. Often campgrounds are remote, but this one was within walking distance of a grocery store and several restaurants which made waiting easier.

This is the glorious entrance to the camp restroom.

On Monday, Fiat Service informed us that though our engine had recorded multiple problem codes, they were “old codes” and no longer useful for diagnosis. They cleared the codes and said we could either leave it with them to check on when they could (a minimum of a week) or drive it until the engine light came back on so they had an “active code” to work with.

Fiat customer waiting.

Our experience was that it could be weeks before the light came back on so we resolved to drive, baby, drive. We drove it on errands for the rest of the day, all the while just hoping that light would come on. I even tried reverse psychology - stating aloud “It sure would be terrible if that engine light came on right now.”  Nothing. 

So we set our sights on Wales and drove into Cardiff the next day. More information on Cardiff Castle.  We explored the lovely and huge park in the heart of Cardiff that also includes Cardiff Castle. 

Our photos here, click i for captions.

By Tuesday afternoon driving around aimlessly hoping something would go wrong seemed ridiculous so we booked a campsite in Dover just outside the ferry port. Excitedly, we shopped for groceries and got ready to continue our trip. Yeah!

Wednesday morning we set out for Dover, BAM! The engine light came back on. Simultaneously elated and annoyed, we turned around and headed for the dealership.  More waiting and then terrible news. They were opening a “technical case.” The dealer can't start work until Tuesday and it will probably take multiple weeks to resolve the issue.

Hence, we’ve been here a week and we're stuck in limbo. We can’t go far and we’re just waiting to hear back from Fiat to determine our options. As Charlie Brown would say “Arrrrrgh!